Glen Schofield Talks $200 Million Call Of Duty Games, Canceled Vietnam Game, And How Dead Space Came To Be
Gaming industry veteran Glen Schofield has announced that he is retiring from day-to-day game development, and he spoke to GamesBeat about his career, where a number of notable topics came up. Among other things, he talked about the canceled third-person Call of Duty game set in Vietnam, discussed Call of Duty’s game budgets, and revealed the unlikely story of how Dead Space came to be.
On the subject of the Vietnam game, Schofield said he was working on this third-person game at Activision for about six months. He said management was “very hesitant” about the game, in part because “Vietnam was still an open wound in some people’s minds.”
“We were going through tunnels. We were doing some scary stuff,” he said.
Another developer who worked on the game described it as “almost like an Uncharted-meets-Call of Duty idea.” Before this, former Sledgehammer boss Michael Condrey said the game, codenamed Fog of War, was aiming to be an Apocalypse Now-style Call of Duty game.
“In your head you instantly can imagine an Uncharted style of game, but done in the lore of Call of Duty,” he said in 2014. “You can see that. We built a prototype and it was cool. It was a true, gritty, Apocalypse Now take on Vietnam in an interactive way. We had a 15-minute demo, and there were some great moments.”
Call of Duty fans didn’t get Fog of War, but 2020’s Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War from developer Treyarch featured flashback missions set in the year 1968 during the Vietnam War.
Schofield also discussed something people in the industry normally avoid talking about: budgets. He said his horror game with Krafton, The Callisto Protocol, was made on a budget of around $150 million. The three Call of Duty games he worked on–Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (2011), Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (2014), and Call of Duty: WWII (2017)–cost more than $200 million. “Sometimes much more,” he said.
For Dead Space, Schofield said EA was pushing him to make another James Bond game, “And I said no.” He said he enjoyed working on 007: From Russia With Love, but it was a “pain in the neck,” and he wasn’t happy with the review scores.
So he gave his bosses his two-week notice after getting another offer from a different company. Then Paul Lee, the former president of EA, came to Schofield to ask him, “What’s it going to take?” Schofield said Lee assumed Schofield wanted more money or stock options, but Schofield instead said he only wanted to make “my own game.” That’s when he pitched the idea that would become Dead Space, but Lee told him, “We don’t make [sci-fi horror] at EA.”
Schofield eventually convinced Lee to let him make Dead Space with a hand-picked team and with the understanding that his team would be left alone creatively. “The rest is, I guess, history,” Schofield said.
Also in the interview, Schofield pushed back against people calling him the “co-creator” of Dead Space. “There’s this one string that says I was the co-creator of Dead Space. I am not. I’m the creator. It’s because somebody went in and adjusted the Wikipedia page. That kinda sucks,” he said.
Finally, regarding his retirement, Schofield said it was the “hardest decision of my life” to call it quits because working in the business is a “dream job.”
“It’s been a dream career. The people have been mostly kind to me. They let my games into their homes. The fans are everything. We’re nothing without the fans,” he said.